"I guess, like, we were more "friends"? I didn't know what "falling in love" was, so, I'd never experienced it. So I just thought, because I liked him I loved him. And so he got me an engagement ring and we got engaged. Y'know, it was fun; I mean, it was like, okay, I'm—all those problems are behind me, now; I'm gonna have babies!And I just couldn't wait to get pregnant; I mean, that was the goal. … Everything really did happen for a reason. Kurt had to be born; it was—it was a must.He was the first grandchild on both sides. Everybody was coming over—constantly. Can't even describe what a magnet he was; people would just come to him."