"Even though my character is sort of being talked about as the villain of Stardust, everyone is a villain in Stardust ... I'm probably the ugliest villain in Stardust, for sure [laughs] and the oldest because I age ... I'm 5,000 years old or something ridiculous like that, but I think as fun as these characters I play in the beginning, you don't want to fall into the trap of just going out and being mean. Mean people don't think they're being mean; mean people think they're completely justified in their outbursts or their comments and the truth underneath it all is they're fighting and angry, they feel like the victim, as twisted as they might be, so that's also why it's so interesting to play those because you kind of get to figure that all out."