"1 ♞☮♌︎Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 13:51, 7 January 2012 (UTC)2 Kalki 14:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC) I can provisionally agree with this to some extent in most the most casually specific or practical contexts, but can perceive others in which it is disputable or definitely untrue — and I would assert that ultimately it's repudiation is true : any person or groups which believe a permanently just and lasting peace can be attained by anything OTHER than peaceful and respectful means, honorable by ALL parties involved, is extremely deluded. I wish to "make it perfectly clear" that I am certainly NOT a pacifist in the conventional sense — when anyone I am capable of defending is unjustly attacked I am often quite naturally, automatically and extremely inclined to do what I can to damage, devastate, demolish, and eradicate the destructive capacities of the attackers any way I can, and usually with very little if any qualm or reluctance; but I am also certainly NOT inclined to attack others not clearly engaged in intolerably unjust hostilities, NOR to wreak needless and usually quite detrimental vengeance on anyone defeated — I am inclined to forgive but not forget the stupidity of others, and pardon them, to the extent practically possible within the limitations of prudence. I know my stances on these matters can seem paradoxical to the weak minded and shallow perceptions of those who embrace MANY conventional and popular forms of timidity when attacked by the strong, or who lust for vengeance or the depraved will to simply punish others they consider enemies or proper victims when they are at the advantage, and thus seize upon such rationalizations as Nixon here provides as an excuse to act arrogantly, callously or even viciously against the proper rights of others — but I consider such behavior a failure to exercise one's truly rational and human capacities, and so remain in the merely brutal levels of perceptions and responses. Such attitudes are what the wisest ever fight — every way that they can, and it sometimes requires harshness that can easily be mistaken for brutality by those of shallow perception — and so it goes.... ~ ♞☮♌︎Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 13:51, 7 January 2012 (UTC) + tweaks"

"4 Zarbon 06:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)"

"2 Kalki 14:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)"

"2 Zarbon 06:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)"

"2 InvisibleSun 22:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC) -->"

"3 InvisibleSun 15:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC) -->"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 00:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC); but perhaps extended for context."

"3 Zarbon 06:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 00:10, 8 January 2016 (UTC) 3 Kalki 14:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC) -->"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 23:50, 7 January 2015 (UTC) 3 Kalki 14:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC) with a strong lean toward 4."

"2 Zarbon 18:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC) -->"

"4 Kalki (talk · contributions) 18:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC) * 3 Kalki 14:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)"

"1 Zarbon 18:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC) -->"

"3 InvisibleSun 20:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)"

"4 InvisibleSun 20:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC) -->"

"3 InvisibleSun 22:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC) -->"

"3 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 00:32, 8 December 2025 (UTC)"

"(?) — I had intended to use this, but in prepping for it, found that though she was the vocalist of the released song, she has no writing credits regarding it. I am certainly still open to using it in the future, but properly sourcing the lyrics and creating a page for the authors will take time, and has yet to be done. ~ ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 00:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC) + tweaks"

"3 --ᘙ (talk) 22:29, 5 September 2025 (UTC)"

"2.5 DanielTom (talk) 14:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC)"

"2 Kalki 02:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC) with a strong lean toward 3."

"3 Zarbon 04:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)"

"2 DanielTom (talk) 15:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC) (Cf. Bertrand Russell: "Patriots always talk of dying for their country, and never of killing for their country.")"

"4 Zarbon 04:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)"

"1 Kalki (talk · contributions) 15:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC) 3 Kalki 03:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC) this was used 4 April 2008."

"2 Kalki 02:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)"

"3 Kalki 02:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 00:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC) {but extended this for context] -->"

"3 DanielTom (talk) 15:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC) -->"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 23:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC) 3 Kalki 02:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC) but wouldbut will extend it a bit for context."

"0 Zarbon 15:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)"

"2 InvisibleSun 03:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)"

"2 ~ UDScott 23:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 23:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC) 3 Kalki 21:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC), but would extend this for context to read:"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki·⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 23:55, 7 December 2019 (UTC) * 3 Kalki 21:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC) with a strong lean toward 4."

"3 DanielTom (talk) 15:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC) I like this one. -->"

"2 because taking a chance counts. Zarbon 04:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)"

"2 what's been said has been said. Zarbon 04:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC) -->"

"3 Zarbon 15:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)"

"4 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 23:53, 7 December 2016 (UTC) 3 Kalki 21:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)"

"2 Antiquary 13:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC) -->"

"1 Zarbon 15:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)"