"I was just doing whatever I could, you know. And then I had a delivery job at a place, and then the guy that I was doing that with, he was a wicked bass player, and he was teaching at MI (Musicians Institute), and one of his students was Jeff Buckley, or something (Interviewer: "Really?!")...so, then me and him, and Jeff Buckley, we had a country band together (Interviewer: "You did?!"). Jeff was rad, man. He was a great brother, man. I hung out with him a lot, and then...dude, I'll never forget, like, when we were in that band, though, man, he came in with this demo, it's like, that he did in his apartment. It was four songs, and three of them were on that Grace record (Interview: "On Grace, yeah."), and he programmed all the drums on a SR 16 Alesis, but he didn't program, he did it with his fingers (Interview: "Like, he played it in real time.")...yeah, dude, I could put that on for you, it will blow, no one has (Interview: "Yeah, let's listen to it, later.")...no one has this. And, dude, I just went, kid, you're going to be a star (both laugh). He would, and also, I would like to say, that guy had like a photographical music memory (Interviewer: "He did?"). After those guys would leave, after rehearsal, man, we would play, like, Zeppelin shit ― In My Time Of Dying, and stuff ― he played every lead, note for note, absolutely perfectly, man (Interviewer: "Wow!"). He was the real deal, man. I've never played with another guitar player that (did that?). (Interviewer: "Yeah, people talk about his vocal powers, but his guitar stylings were amazing!"). Dude, right! When he came out with that Grace record, I remember he came, 'man, this is my record' and I was just like...at first I was just like, what's all this singing shit, dude (Interviewer laughs); where's the guitar playing? I was like bummed...that's how bad of an A&R guy I would have been (both laugh). Pretty fucking funny. (Interview: "You should make a fusion record, bro.") Yeah, right, yeah, come on, dude. God, I was (unintelligible), because I didn't recognize the genius of his voice, but the songwriting I did recognize ― I just went, wow, man ― he was an exceptional talent. I feel very lucky to be able to say, dude, I played with him for a couple of years (Interview: "That's incredible!" [Danny laughs])."