"People have to vaccinate, this is the basic issue. Considering the realities and reluctance of a large part of society, we need to consider what we can do here. I am returning to the efficiency of the state: the courts are the last instance here - without reforming them, persuading them to obey the law, because that is what it is all about, it is difficult to change. This affects the functioning of the entire state, at various levels, and this must be taken into account."

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