"... physics, one could say, is in sort of a crisis, in some sense, because of a current gap between the sophisticated theories, which come from applying sophisticated mathematics, and the actual universe. ... I think perhaps new ideas are needed, and I wouldn't be surprised if Witten is one those people who come up with those ideas."
Edward Frenkel

January 1, 1970

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