"If you want fantasy... first of all, you have to believe in string theory... these extra dimensions and the D brains... and these D brains are supposed to have collided in the period before the Big Bang and there they come together and produced our Big Bang... and that expands... [T]he trouble... is a strong element of fantasy. We really haven't the remotest idea... what kind of physics is supposed to go on here, but there's a more serious problem... [T]his... has different forms, one... is... in terms of the 2nd law of thermodynamics... and it's related to a geometrical issue... [T]hese pictures are hard to draw.... because the singularity in the black hole doesn't really fit on the Big Bang singularity... It's a stretch of geometrical imagination... [I]t doesn't make them wrong, because... you really do need some fantasy, and this is an example of this possible kind of fantasy that you might need, but I want to give you a different kind which... has some greater plausibility..."