"0 Kalki 14:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC) I might give this a 1 or even a 2 some other date of the Christmas season, but I feel it ranks as a zero for Christmas day itself. 1 ~ Kalki 22:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC) (Ellison is an interesting writer and personality, but on this I am inclined to quote an old cartoon: "Bah, Humbug to you too, you old fart!")"