"0 This evokes qualities and appeals to certain emotions of devotion and loyalty which might be admirable, but this statement itself, to my mind is not admirable at all. I could agree with a statement that asserted "It isn't right to seek to be virtuous only when things are easy", but absolute obedience to the will of any person or group is something I consider not to be virtuous at all, though it is often very easy, comfortable, and convenient to many of those who are profoundly confused about what the paths of true virtue actually impel, and how greatly they can and often must diverge from paths of any form of abject or absolute obedience to anyone. I was inclined to rank this at 1 for a time, because I do believe that if enough people do strongly endorse such profoundly stupid views, I do believe their voices should be heard. Yet reflecting upon the profound contempt I have for such extremely confused attitudes, and for many others which I would also be inclined to rank at 0, I finally resolved that there certainly are attitudes and expressions which I certainly do not believe are at all worth noting as a quote of the day, and this is one of them. If this does end up clearly ranking highest for the day, under the current guidelines, it will probably still be selected for use despite my own protests and objections. Even so, I firmly believe that the worship of any form of abject or absolute obedience to any person or group, is certainly never a virtue, even when the views they express are actually virtuous, and to my own views this quote is testimony from someone whose ideas and loyalties were far from that. To me the quote itself remains an expression of a profoundly contemptible attitude, by a person who lived to a great extent a profoundly contemptible life, in service to a profoundly contemptible cause. Though I recognize that some situations exist where there are conflicts and challenges which give advantages to those who have some form of limited obedience to others, this expression of total worship of the traditions of slavery, by an enslaved mind who seeks to be a master over the enslaved minds of others, is not even a view which could ever be endorsed by someone who is entirely sane and rational. I expect it is a view which many who have much capacity for much good sense brutally beaten out of them by others or by other foul circumstances might come to endorse most avidly. I can pity such people for their fates and their very limited views of things, but I certainly cannot agree with them upon such matters. ~ Kalki 15:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)"