"3 Kalki 20:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC) (I would probably rank this a 4, if proven to be Orff's comment, but I haven't been able to definitely source it; though I have seen it specifically cited to Orff, it has also sometimes been cited as an "ancient proverb" "ancient chinese proverb" or "old chinese proverb" — since at least as early as 1983 — though it does seem precisely characteristic of Orff's teaching philosophy.)"