"[On his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein] Possibly some people will think because I am a gay man... I wasn't attuned to what was going on. I don't really accept that. I think the issue is that because I was a gay man in his circle I was kept separate from what he was doing in the sexual side of his life. The only people that were there were the housekeepers, never were there any young women or girls, or people that he was preying on or engaging with in that sort of ghastly predatory way that we subsequently found out he was doing."