"Journalist: Does the devil exist? Arturo Sosa: In several ways. You have to understand the cultural elements to refer to this character. In the language of Saint Ignatius it is the evil spirit that leads you to do things that go against the spirit of God. It exists as evil personified in different structures but not in people, because it is not a person, it is a way of carrying out evil. He is not a person like a human person is. It is a way of evil being present in human life. Good and evil are in constant struggle in human consciousness, and we have ways of indicating them. We recognize God as good, entirely good. Symbols are part of reality, and the devil exists as a symbolic reality, not as a personal reality."