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"The talk about the poets seems to me like a commonplace entertainment to which a vulgar company have recourse; who, because they are not able to converse or amuse one another, while they are drinking, with the sound of their own voices and conversation, by reason of their stupidity, raise the price of flute-girls in the market, hiring for a great sum the voice of a flute instead of their own breath, to be the medium of intercourse among them: but where the company are real gentlemen and men of education, you will see no flute-girls, nor dancing-girls, nor harp-girls; and they have no nonsense or games, but are contented with one another’s conversation, of which their own voices are the medium, and which they carry on by turns and in an orderly manner, even though they are very liberal in their potations. And a company like this of ours, and men such as we profess to be, do not require the help of another’s voice, or of the poets whom you cannot interrogate about the meaning of what they are saying; people who cite them declaring, some that the poet has one meaning, and others that he has another, and the point which is in dispute can never be decided. This sort of entertainment they decline, and prefer to talk with one another, and put one another to the proof in conversation. And these are the models which I desire that you and I should imitate. Leaving the poets, and keeping to ourselves, let us try the mettle of one another and make proof of the truth in conversation."

- Protagoras (dialogue)

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"Whenever I visited Mount Takakuma I found myself thinking about Plato’s allegory of the cave in The Republic. He tells of men imprisoned in a cave where all they see are shadows on the wall from outside activity, and all they hear are echoes from outside noise. His point is that all humans are like these prisoners in the cave: ignorant, trapped in the depths, looking and listening to illusions they believe are real, unaware of the limits of their perceptions. On rare occasion one individual escapes and through a long painful journey discovers true reality, which according to Plato is that goodness is the great origin of everything that exists. In Plato’s view it is not kings through birth or dictators through strength or presidents through election who are best equipped to govern society but this rare individual who has left the cave and gained knowledge of what is ultimately real. The problem is this person is almost always misunderstood because the humans in the cave have not had his experience or gained his insight. As I write these words it feels like I am telling Onisaburo’s story. He went into the cave and then had his out-of-body experiences; when he left the cave he understood the world of humans and the world of spirits. Onisaburo spent the rest of his life trying to teach the Japanese to see their illusions for what they were and to embrace the spiritual world. In the world of humans, since Onisaburo moved to his burial mound, most of us are still stuck in the cave, buried in illusions: the illusion of material wealth; the illusion of military might; the illusion of controlling destiny. The list goes on. Our illusions exclude ritual, nature, the arts, the spiritual world and other ancient ways explored in this book."

- Allegory of the Cave

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"Polybius has no time for utopias that nobody has tried to put into practice. “As for Plato’s celebrated republic,” he observes, “I do not think it admissible that this should be brought into the argument about constitutions. For just as we do not allow artists or athletes who are not duly registered or have not been in training to take part in festivals or games, so we should not admit the Platonic constitution to this contest for the prize of merit unless some example can be provided of it in action.” In this light, Plato’s dialogue Statesman is an ironic commentary on statecraft, not a contribution to it. The participants in Plato’s dialogue discuss the definition of the statesman, and what he must know to be the master of his art. But that art is not that of preserving the republic against its corruption by ambitious men such as Alcibiades or Sulla or Caesar; and the Socratic statesman’s argumentative skills are not devoted to persuading the Roman Senate to agree to the execution of Catiline’s fellow conspirators on the basis that salus populi suprema lex est—the preservation of the republic legitimates an otherwise illegal act. The statesman of Plato’s imagination is the godlike superior of the human herd or flock that he superintends, and Socratic statecraft is the tending of souls. Socrates did not expect to carry conviction in Gorgias when he described himself as the only true statesman in Athens. In the sense at issue here, his craft is not statecraft at all, and he is not a statesman."

- Statesman (dialogue)

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"We shall see that there is great reason to hope that death is a good, for one of two things: either death is a state of nothingness and utter unconsciousness, or, as men say, there is a change and a migration of the soul from this world to another. Now if you suppose there is no consciousness, but a sleep like the sleep of him who is undisturbed even by the site of dreams, death will be an unspeakable gain. For if a person were to select the night in which his sleep was undisturbed even by dreams, and were to compare with this the other days and nights of his life, and then were to tell us how many days and nights he had passed in the course of his life better and more pleasantly than this one, I think that any man, I will not say a private man, but even the great king, will not find many such days or nights, when compared with the others. Now, if death is like this, I say that to die is gain; for eternity is then only a single night. But if death is the journey to another place, and there, as men say, all the dead are, what good, O friends and judges, can be greater than this? ...Above all, I shall be able to continue my search into true and false knowledge; as in this world, so also in that; I shall find out who is wise, and who pretends to be wise, and is not. ...What infinite delight would there be in conversing with them and asking them questions! For in that world they would not put a man to death for this; certainly not. For besides being happier in that world than in this, they will be immortal, if what is said is true."

- Apology (Plato)

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