John McEntee

"(Incantation) Marduk caught some flak for some work they’ve done that references the Nazis in the context of WWII. In that same breath, you’ve recently caught fire over your association with your former singer Craig Pillard and his Nazi-related project Der Sturmer. What are your thoughts on that?(McEntee) [laughs] Well, first of all it’s kind of ridiculous because he is our former singer. I can’t have control over what any of my former members do or what they’re into. That was probably about 2 years after he left the band when he got into some of his controversial stuff. I mean it’s so just ridiculous because this Nazi stuff never even slightly came up when we were in a band. So it’s just totally insane. For many years, I barely even talked to Craig so to have any affiliation with whatever he’s doing, regardless of what it is… Yeah, we have a connection because he played in Incantation and he did an amazing job while he was in the band, but that’s really as far as our relationship goes.The thing with that… I think that it’s really ignorant because they’re not really getting proper information and trying to go for low hanging fruit. If they really wanted to do the right thing in pushing their agenda I think they need to find the right way to do it where they’re not going to get too much push back. The way they’re doing it is almost fueling more problems. If they really feel that us and Marduk are racist, they should know for sure before making those accusations. But to try to say that the people coming to a show are being Nazi sympathizers is just absolutely insane. I mean especially in Austin [where protestors showed up]– 80% of the crowd is probably Mexican or Latino. And the way they’re dealing with things is actually causing more push back in the opposite direction than they would if they didn’t do anything at all. Now there’s people that are just pissed off at them. They’re gonna do antagonizing stuff to them– I have seen Mexican people giving them the “Hail Hitler” sign at the show and they were doing it to piss them off, not because they’re racist.They’re going about it is just wrong. I mean especially stopping shows– you’re not gonna make more fans by stopping shows. They stopped the show in Oakland, California– I think they made some threats and the show didn’t go on. All that did was really piss off a lot of people, and it totally doesn’t help anything. Drunken metal heads want to go to a show and have a good time, you know?The thing that really drives me up a wall is that we are metalheads­– we’re supposed to be rebellious and on the edge­– we’re supposed to be kind of assholes to some extent. That’s the only reason why I got into metal. I don’t feel like I need to prove to people anything really. I shouldn’t have to. We play all around the world to different people of all different nationalities and the thing that we have in common is that we all like metal. We’re really appreciative of that. I would say the same for Marduk. They play all around the world for people, and if they were really racist they’d only be playing in Europe and certain places where there’s white people. So it’s just absurd.That’s what kills me. We need to work together to build our scene, not work apart. And the thing is that people go to our shows… we don’t have a litmus test. They could be Nazis or they could be ANTIFA or whatever­– just go and enjoy the show. The show is our getaway from everything. It’s not a test to be one thing or the other– it has no relevance to our show whatsoever [laughs]. We don’t do anything that’s political in anyway. We have no interest in it. If you’re religious you’ll get a little offended but I mean everyone is allowed at our shows. Whatever they believe is none of our business."