Connie Zehr

"What I am interested in doing is helping people see in a particular kind of way and to see what is already here- to sort of move and change things that are already a part of this particular enviornment. I am trying to do that in a very subtle way by saying: well, my human quality is a different kind of organisational quality. For instance the grey piece is laid out in a series of mounds with a grid. Everything else in the landscape is totally random. When the rocks fall, they simply fall and there is no particular design. Whereas I lay my human design on it."

"I grew up in Indiana and my earlier memories were of living on a farm. We lived on my grandfather’s farm in Indiana and actually, it’s interesting, that location was called Sand Hill Farm. My grandfather was Amish and his property was just adjacent to his parents’. So, they had lots of land so they were farmers and that’s where I started. When I was about six years old, I remember some friends of my parents gave my mother and I Christmas presents, and they gave my mother colored pencils and they gave me perfume, and to this day I think they must have gotten it mixed up because I was terribly insulted, I thought, you know, “I’m the artist, I should have gotten the colored pencils!” So, at a very early age, somehow, even though I was living on a farm and had really no idea what it meant to be an artist, I considered myself to be a creative person."

"No, nobody. The families really were . . . my mother’s family lived in Lafayette, Indiana and she came from a really large family, and my dad’s family, were obviously, all farmers. So, there was no role model at all. I think the most sophisticated experience I had was when I was in high school, my freshman and sophomore year, my father was in India with the Point 4 program, and I worked with a woman [whose husband was with the foreign service in Delhi], who was an artist and she had a studio. And I worked with her several mornings a week. So, that became, I suppose, that was my very first real practical experience of what an artist did. She would work in her studio in the morning . . . she would not answer the telephone. Her friends all knew not to call her at certain times, so that was probably my first experience with that."

"It was, we went to art museums, we traveled through Europe on our way home. We didn’t do any stopping when we went to India, but on the way back, which was better, because by then I was 16 and so I saw a lot of things I wouldn’t have seen if I was just living in Ohio."

"I started college at Michigan State because I went to . . . two summers before that I had gone to Interlochen Music Camp and they had an art program there. And so, the man who was teaching art was also teaching at Michigan State, so I got interested in going there because of their program. So, my first year, I was I was at Michigan State and then after that I transferred to Ohio State so that I could live at home. My family did not have that . . . it was always a matter of finances to, you know, how you were going to afford to do these things. All beginning art majors, you take drawing, ceramics, painting, and everything. That was my first experience with working three-dimensionally so I was completely hooked. Before that I had, in India, all the work I had done were drawings and paintings, because I was working with [Janet Sewell], and that was all that I knew. Even as a child, I was always drawing. So, it wasn’t until I went to Michigan State and took that ceramics class. There was something about, you know, not just your ideas, but the physical information that is in your body or in your hands or something, that really clicked for me, I liked that a lot."

"Well, the art department there was very different than it is now."

"The sculpture department was over in some agronomy building in the basement or something because they had a very old building and, there just wasn’t room for all the classes. Now they have a huge new building. I went to interview someone that we were interviewing as a Dean who was in their Art History department, and their Art department now is in a huge building, it has like 12 floors or something and three floors are devoted just to computers. So it is a very different department now than it was then, but when I was there it was very intimate and you could work there all the time, all day, on the weekends if you wanted to. They had visiting artists. I remember David Smith came one time and spoke to us, and talked to us in our studios and I remember I was complaining to him about something, I can’t remember. I didn’t have enough of something, I was complaining because the school didn’t provide it and he just said, “Well, go get it!” And I said, “Oh yeah.” It just never dawned on me, “Oh yeah! I’m in charge of what I’m doing! If I need something, just go get it!”"

"Yes. And my [former husband], David Elder was the T.A. (teaching assistant) for the person teaching the sculpture class."

"Yes, he was in a graduate student in that program, and that’s how we met. We married right after I graduated and he continued as a graduate TA."

"David got a job teaching at Valparaiso University, which is where he graduated from, that’s in Indiana. And, I did some things. Again, I was kind of back to doing drawings. We were there for a couple years and then moved to California."

"It was1964 and I was pregnant with Eric at that time and so we moved out here and we were in Long Beach for a couple of years before he then got a job at Pasadena City College. By then, well, actually, in Long Beach, I was making sculpture again. As soon as we got to California, things really started to click and when we moved to Sierra Madre and David was teaching in Pasadena, I think one of the really important things for me was that I saw one of Judy Chicago’s smoke pieces. I don’t know if you are familiar with those but she did them in several locations where she would. . . . Well, one that I remember in particular, was at the Pasadena, or, what is now the Norton Simon Museum, around that pool she had people set up colored smoke and so they would light them and then . . . so you just had this ephemeral experience that lasted for what, maybe 30 minutes. So that was my first experience with seeing something that relied on your visual memory. There was nothing left, there was no object. I was quite fascinated with that."