Mass Murderers

"I’m full of hate and I love it!"

"This is poa, understand? Do meditation. Repeat the phrase 'It was nice to be blessed by the guru, Shiva and those who have attained the Supreme Truth,' ten thousand times."

"Suppose there was someone who would accumulate bad karma and go to hell if allowed to live. And suppose an enlightened individual thought that it was better to terminate the person's life and gave the person poa ... Objectively speaking, it is a destruction of life.... However, based on the notion of Vajrayana, it is no other than respectable poa."

"In my previous existence, I myself have killed someone at my guru's order. When your guru orders you to take someone's life, it's an indication that that person's time is already up. In other words, you are killing that person exactly at the right time and thereby letting that person have his poa."

"... to dedicate one's bodily existence... For example, oppression from the government would be directed toward the supreme truth. Can you throw your body away? You might discard your own body. You throw it away without hesitation. This is the way of Tantra to dedicate one's body... It is the way of Tantra to abandon oneself for the sake of spiritual maturity."

"It is not wrong to presume that people today would obtain their rebirth in hell, or the realms of preta or animal, is it? The reason why is that they kill living beings, steal other people's belongings, pursue obscenities, lie, and drink alcohol. It is better to think that there is no means to redeem them anymore."

"The end justifies the means. Let's say there's a man whose vices are so many that he is certain to go to hell when he dies. If an enlightened individual determines that it's best to put an end to his life sooner and actually goes ahead and kills him, this act would be seen as plain murder in society in general. But in the light of our doctrine, the killing amounts to letting the man have his poa. As such, any enlightened person will see at once that both the killer and the person to be killed are going to benefit from the act."

"You know that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your ancestors, not with perishable things like silver and gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without defect or blemish. He was destined before the foundation of the world, but was revealed at the end of the ages for your sake..."

"Let us look at the situation of Aum Shinrikyo now. When did the slaying happen to Aum? It began when Aum got involved in the election and declared freedom, equality, and benevolence for every being, especially for the Japanese, spreading the hospice movement and campaigning against the consumption tax at the same time. Since then, just like a Lamb who was slain, Aum has sacrificed its honor and position in society for the sake of its teaching."

"Once you've achieved satori then you realize what you need to do now, or just what this thing called life is. Then you lose all interest in money. After all, you've realized that there is something much more important than that. How can I live each day to the full? How can I live in such a way as to seek after absolute freedom, absolute happiness and joy, which is what the true self really desires? Gradually you begin to focus on these points. Then you begin training and head towards gedatsu."

"You can love all people. The ability to see all things as they are immediately brings one happiness."

"First of all, a red-hot energy is released from the mūlādhāra chakra in the coccyx and travels up along the backbone, entering the sahasrāra chakra at the top of the head. After that, kundalinī travels up through the sushumna channel, which connects the perineum with the sahasrāra chakra. Then kundalinī passes through the sādhisthāna chakra (genitals) to the manipūra chakra (navel), on to the anāhata chakra (chest) and then through the vishuddha chakra (throat), and a spiritual awakening occurs."

"Let me tell you straight, those who think that this world is full of pleasure are not suited for our practice. For their lives have not yet come to the dead end that provides the impetus for spiritual practice. Only after experiencing suffering are they ready to start practice. [...] when you come to the end of this process, when you run into that dead end, that's when you begin to experience suffering. That's when you become keenly aware of the suffering of being reborn into this world, the meaningless of it all. It is because your true self has accumulated many experiences that finally you become aware of this."

"We have to prevent those of false gedatsu from wielding any influence over people. For that reason I think I will have to show you eventually the true state and power of one who has attained gedatsu, as a kind of touchstone."

"Since then I have continually increased the severity of my practice and have been able to investigate thoroughly the final stage of yoga. This is nothing else than the goal that I have set for myself. When I reached that stage, however, I realized that there are still more stages beyond, and I could not be satisfied. And so I began searching again."

"It is time for you to carry out the plan of salvation. Let us prepare to meet our death without any regrets."

"It will be possible to limit the destruction if Aum works to produce large numbers of people who have reached gedatsu. The number of those who die at Armageddon will then be no more than a quarter of the world's population.... At present, though, my plan for salvation is behind schedule and the percentage of those who will survive is getting lower and lower. It is already impossible to limit the victims to less than one-fourth."

"For the first time I stopped and thought, "What am I living for? What must I do to overcome this sense of emptiness?" This is a feeling which we all experience from time to time, only not as intensely. In a situation like that some people will change jobs, and some people just disappear. However, I set off in a completely different direction. The desire to seek after the ultimate awoke within me, and I began groping for an answer. That meant that I had to discard everything. Yes, everything that I had. It took great courage and faith, and great resolution."

"Jouret's act forces us to recognize the religious motifs that lurk beneath even the most materialist assessments of the unraveling environment, as if all the secular tools of activist science and politics cannot help us dodge the West's great cataclysmic story. Just as some tribal societies ritually enact the birth of the cosmos, Jouret performed civilization's end, magically expressing the ideology of those ecologists who get so deep they start lobbying for the voluntary extinction of the human race."

"In the interior of the physical body there blooms a vital force, a vital energy which was there before Man's physical appearance on earth."

"If you make the first steps, I'll make sure that you make the other ones."

"Il disait que son père avait été inutilement sévère, qu'il ne lui avait laissé aucune liberté. Pour cette raison, il se montrait partisan d'une éducation très ouverte, sans contraintes, pour que les gamins s'épanouissent. C'est pour ça, me confiait-il, qu'il aimait par-dessus tout la liberté. Il pensait à la sienne, bien sûr."

"You are not sick because you have a disease; you have a disease because you are sick."

"[...] the real problem was that Luc Jouret and Jo DiMambro were people who couldn't very easily tolerate any kind of criticism or opposition. I remember a small but significant personal experience with Luc Jouret in December 1987. [...] We spoke for about 3 hours and at some point I mentioned two lines about him that had been published in an anti-cult booklet in France. It was really nothing of consequence. It wasn't even associated with the group he belonged to at that time, but to another group to which he had belonged before. When I mentioned that book, he told me, "Oh yes, Mr. Mayer, really that's something which I didn't like at all." He explained to me that he had tried to call the author in order to get a correction, and the author refused to speak with him. He called the author a second time. The author refused again. He called the author a third time. The author turned him down, and he told me, "you know, Mr. Mayer, one week later he was dead." This kind of remark is quite enlightening about the real allergy to opposition which such a man could have developed. I took it, of course, as a hidden warning to me. It seems I was the only person investigating the group to any extent. I hasten to say that it is not very clever, because usually if people warn me this way it makes me only more curious."

"For outsiders, Luc Jouret was definitely a charismatic, charming personality. He was a very, very impressive person, especially in his interaction with with an audience. I did some research on the group in 1987, and at that time I attended lectures given by Luc Jouret for hours in front of several hundred people."

"I remember the very first lecture, already mentioned, which I attended with Luc Jouret. That was March of 1997 in Lausanne. Luc Jouret was lecturing on the topic "Love and Biology." On the advertisement it simply said: "Luc Jouret, Physician. Love and Biology." Nothing apocalyptic in the title. But after 10 or 20 minutes, he was already delivering a spiritual message with a strong apocalyptic content, telling the audience that volcanoes are about to erupt, forests are dying, this earth can no more endure these atrocities generated by mankind, and so on. This was a typical tone in his lectures."

"Di Mambro: People have beaten us to the punch, you know."

"in all great civilizations we notice that doctors were always priests and vice-versa. I am convinced that a doctor who is not concerned with reintegrating himself into a dimension in which the spiritual is more important than the physical cannot understand his patient as such. And this is rather the tragedy of medicine today, not to denigrate its authentic value concerning what it has allowed as far as transformation of man, but it nevertheless still leads to a dead end because it refuses to integrate the spiritual man into the physical man, even though the spiritual has conditioned the physical."

"L'homme n'a aucune raison d'être. Que nous mourions tous maintenant, le soleil ne s'arrêtera pas de briller."

"Di Mambro: People have beaten us to the punch, you know."

"Space is curved, time comes to an end... Our cycle is over, these images tell all. [...] The good-hearted man can live in this precise second... a sublime event: the passage of the cycle of Adamic man towards a new cycle of evolution, programmed on another earth, an earth prepared to receive the stored vibrations enriched by the authentic servants of the Rosy Cross."

"In 1984 I met him, he was maybe one of the last conscious persons on earth. He moved with the forces, it was that simple. I don't like to use the word 'power'."

"Liberation is not where human beings think it is. Death can represent an essential stage of life."

"We are in the reign of fire, everything is being burned."

"There were some transcendent experiences in my life, some experiences that made me directly experience a superior aspect of man—to which I had previously been blind [...]"

"Our brains will undergo modifications, physical in the second phase, but certainly subtle and vibratory at first, which will cause man (the ones who are able) to react completely, and in a different way to events."

"Joseph courant à perdre haleine à mes côtés, avant qu'un obus nous fracasse, c'est le souvenir le plus fort qu'il me reste de lui. Un garçon qui a peur."

"My notion of God is that He is the essence of what makes all things happen."

"There are people who claim that I have taken from you everything. What I have taken I haven't taken for me, since I leave everything behind. But I will leave nothing behind, I will leave ashes, I will leave nothing to the bastards who have betrayed us. The harm they have done to the Rosy Cross, that I cannot forgive. What they have done to me doesn't matter, but the harm they have done to the Rosy Cross I won't forgive. I cannot."

"Do you realize that we are the only people on the planet to see these things?"

"We are rejected by the whole world. First by the people, the people can no longer withstand us. And our Earth, fortunately she rejects us. How would we leave [otherwise]? We also reject this planet. We wait for the day we can leave... life for me is intolerable, intolerable, I can't go on. So think about the dynamic that will get us to go elsewhere."

"We don't know when they might close the trap on us… a few days? A few weeks? We are being followed and spied upon in our every move. All the cars are equipped with tracing and listening devices. All of their most sophisticated techniques are being used on us. While in our house, beware of surveillance cameras, lasers and infra-red. Our file is the hottest on the planet, the most important of the last ten years, if not the century. However that may be, as it turns out, the concentration of hate against us will give us enough energy to leave."

"I think the people who claim that Di Mambro was a conman are right. I think that the people who claimed that Di Mambro was convinced about his spiritual message are right too. Di Mambro was just a kind of complex personality, actually a kind of schizophrenic and disturbed personality. The major, the terrible consequence of it, is that it is a total loss of reality and the dream world he elaborated was shared with several people, who more and more entered into his delusions."

"If we do not consider tradition in light of scientific facts, it is useless; nothing can be learned from it. By the same token, if science does not incorporate tradition into its facts, it too is useless."

"We are not here tonight by chance. Every one of you is in this hall because he has a reason, he or she has a reason, to be here."

"Quand je vois la violence qui se déchaîne autour de moi, de nous. Je parle de Jo et de moi par exemple, parce qu'on n'accepte pas qu'on fasse partie d'une figure bien précise de la fin des temps. [...] Mon Dieu, quel cirque. Ça devient terrible. On vit une fin de fous, de fous... [...] Si tu savais ce qu'il faut jouer pour tenir la machine, tu n'as aucune idée. Enfin, bref, on arrive au bout. [...] Quelle planète, mon Dieu, qu'est-ce qu'on a foutu de descendre sur cette merde. Quelle planète, mon Dieu, qu'est-ce qu'on a foutu de descendre sur cette merde."

"But interestingly, for the members of the group, the real charismatic personality was Jo DiMambro. Now when I look at the video recordings of Jo DiMambro's lectures, it is just disastrous. He wasn't an eloquent speaker. But when I spoke with former members, and I told them that, they were just incredulous. Jo DiMambro, they would say, he was brilliant, he was extraordinary, and so on, because those people invested him with the qualities of a cosmic master."

"Akhnaton, of course, was Di Mambro. Di Mambro was Akhnaton, Moses, Cagliostro, Osiris. He used to say, "You understand, in all my incarnations I always had to fight, because my spiritual development was always so far in advance of the time when I was living.""

"You start listening and by God, you know, you just all of a sudden feel so attracted to what he is saying. You talk about the universe, you talk about how man is made of four ingredients and how the stars are made of these same four ingredients. Then you go back to Egypt and Egyptology, and then somewhere along the line comes the possibility of extraterrestrials. And it goes on and it goes on like that. But the more you hear, the less you understand, and therefore, the more you want to know. You slowly get caught up in the web."

"DiMambro had created a kind of virtual reality around himself. He only saw people who accepted everything he demanded. He didn't very much like people contradicting him. He was also trying to cultivate relationships with some other occult orders around the world. He was developing a fantasy world, and suddenly people in the core group put that into question --suggesting that actually this world he had created around himself doesn't exist."