"4 because this is the ideology which I believe in most of all. This is the grand soldier principle, more important than petty squabbles and emotional derelict conversation. There is, quite frankly, a beauty in defeat without submission. But to be a slave to another country willingly is a fate worse than death. This is why some of the greatest rulers in history committed suicide before being captured by their enemies. Magnificent charm in never surrendering to the enemy, taking one's own life in order to be spared the wrath of the enemy. This is most commonly referenced in the Roman Emperor deaths, whom cut their own veins while laying in the bathtub in order to escape the clutches of the oncoming enemy. The same can be said of previous and future military minds that I hold respect for, for sheer honor and admiration comes from the ferocity of this, to choose to die by one's own hand instead of face the enemy knocking on heaven's door. What a charming quote this is. Zarbon 05:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)"
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